Teaching Tools for Mindfulness Training

"Winter 1999/2000 Classroom Talk"



Re: It's just a game. :-)
Posted by Jeff on January 13, 2000 at 09:39:21:

In Reply to: About spirituality and religion. posted by John on January 12, 19100 at 14:03:37:

Hello All!

I was having a discussion recently with a co-worker about the nature of
life & spirituality. It seems that the more I try to define it the more
it changes. The concept of a larger container is good, but it in itself
is limiting . With a container there is always an inside, the
container, and the outside. What is outside of the container? Does it
exist in a perfect vacuum? A true nothing?

Coach wrote>I think we have to say that spirituality is life being
known, or being perceived with awareness. I'd like to posit that
spirituality is life apprehended in mindfulness.

Does this mean that spirituality exisits only within us and/or only
when we are mindful? That seems to me fairly similar to saying that the
only way to the spirit is through the Catholic church, or handling
certain poisonous snakes or something. Again as soon as I define the
boundary it is pushed back. To me the spirituality of life simply is,
how we view it is another story.

Coach wrote>And so, we are cut-off from experiencing whether there is
an Absolute, or Higher Power, anyway, for now.

Why? Because we really are unable(who decides) or because we are told
that we can not see? It is possible that what we know is IT! That might
be really scary or really cool depending on how you look at it so to
speak.It may be that we experience it the only way that our senses
allow, that is in pieces. Even with mindfulness at its best, might the
the experience only be a container of limited size.

For me I am try to rid myself of the container, to see and experience
what is there. I am trying to throw semantic boomerangs, and not to
judge.

take care, jeff

ps. Coach wrote>But this is all only intellectual speculation, after
all. It's just a game. :-)

Yes, it that's old game, "Container of Worms"...




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