Classroom Talk
Winter 2002 Archive
Re: On studying the attitudes that split us off from Unity. Posted by lou on February 13, 2002 at 19:36:45:
In Reply to: Re: On studying the attitudes that split us off from Unity. posted by Deirdre on February 13, 2002 at 13:46:22:
Hi Deirdre:
How can I make myself “any clearer” than I have previously stated? I’m
doubtful that I can, but possibly I can make it shorter as you have
requested? I shall try.
>my rope is slipping eventually I will be forced to "see" the
elephant...
This is a questionable (The Big Question) if not out right inaccurate
statement in my own understanding through my own experience. For if any
thing might be ‘eventually forced’ it would naturally be in the
opposite direction so to speak degeneration, sleep or inertia. For I do
not move naturally toward awakening but only through shocks effort and
all these vehicles and many others with outside help i.e. the “sun” in
the acorn story.
>He (John) is IMO not withholding response…
John quickly and clearly responded to me as I had stated at least a
couple of times in my earlier post.
>…outline the question again…
There was no real question Deirdre as I have stated, only a ‘con’ a
ploy as leading or pointing toward the ‘parables’, allegory’s, or
apologue. Which I think you understand the mechanics of these as well
or better than I do, but I could be wrong on that. But as I have
previously stated before as well “For I was playing a bit of the “con”
in the questioning I had posed…” If I didn’t know better I would think
you were trying to rub my nose in something, or at very least seating
me up. Probably just my lack of unity he he he.
>I am happy to speak with you here or in e-mail.
Deirdre I already said…“But if you would like to Deirdre we may speak
privately by e-mail…” This statement you have made reciting back my own
words is not a response, feels like a defiant “con” maneuver to me.
Regardless, in response to this latest post I am ‘feeling’ the
underlying current of your pursuing this conversation to be a “ploy”.
And what clenches this suspicion is the “feeling” I get in reading your
very last statement.
>Oh and don't give up hope you MAY have actually solved some great
question…
Deirdre, I doubt it, and this clenches my feelings of being looked down
upon from some high and mighty spiritual mountaintop.
This is exactly what I had wished to prevent; yet it does show that
two "mindfulness" practitioners can move through these things with good
cheer and unity.
Peacefully yours;
lou
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